I have just installed Forum.dll.

I have run the following functions:

ExtFml("Forum.MOV",Typical(),Mov(C,10,E),E)

ExtFml("Forum.HHVBARS",C,50)

ExtFml("Forum.CSAR",C,.02,.2)

Each indicator returned the following message:

MICROSOFTVISUAL C++ DEBUG LIBRARY

DEBUG ERROR!

PROGRAM: C:\PROGRAM FILES\EQUIS\METASTOCK\MSWIN:EXE

MODULE: C:\PROGRAM FILES\EQUIS\METASTOCK\EXTERNAL FUNCTION DLLS\FORUM.DLL

FILE:

RUN-TIME CHECK FAILURE #3 – THE VARIABLE ‘LONGPOS’ IS BEING USED WITHOUT BEING DEFINED.

(PRESS RETRY TO DEBUG THE APPLICATION)

ABORT RETRY IGNORE

When installing Jurik JMA/DMX, the same group of functions are available from JRS_MSX. They all produce the same error message too.

I have looked through previous posts, but found no help there.

I tried to debug it, but it crashed my computer.

What is wrong, and how do I fix it.

Thanks for your quick reply. I did as you suggested without solving the problem.

The problem in my original post occurrs in Metastock Pro 9.2. , on a Fujitsu Siemens Pi3540 running XP Pro SP3, so I thought I would see how Metastock Pro 12 would handle it. I installed Forum.dll in External Function DLLs, but when I wrote an indicator to test it, Forum was not listed. As JRS_MSX is there, I used the Custom SAR Indicator, I tested that and got the same error. I then shut down MS12, and changed Jurik_Functions.dll to Jurik_Functions.oll, and JRS_MSX likewise, but it made no difference, they remained loaded. I then removed the two Jurik dlls completely from the directory, but they remained loaded. And Forum.dll would not load no matter what I did. So I have the original problem, plus a new one in Metastock Pro 12.

I then went to my Lenovo ThinkPad, running MS Pro 9.2 and 12, and XP Pro SP3, and ran through the whole procedure again. I got exactly the same results once again. So my problem does not seem to be computer specific.

Just a bit of background, and only written so that you will know that I am not new to Metastock, I have been using computers daily since 1980. I have been using Metastock daily for more than 15 years, starting with Ver 6.5 EOD, and I have written literally hundreds of indicators and done more than 3800 simulations on the enhanced system tester. Of the many problems I have encountered, there have been very few that have not been fixed or a work-around found, and I expect we will find an answer to this one too.

I recently did a quick review of Ver 12, and wrote a list of problems I found as a long time Ver 9.2 user, including a big bug in the system tester (which Equis acknowledged), and I add the above matter to that list. I am currently awaiting a reply to my letter to Equis concerning this.

I thank you again for your help, and your thoughts, and look forward to any further suggestions you or other members of the Forum might have.

I have two computers running on a home network, both have MS PRO 9.2 and MS PRO 12 installed. On my Fujitsu Siemens Machine, in MS PRO 12 the external functions DLLs directory path is: C:\Program Files hompson Reuters RD6\Programs\External Functions DLLs.

Thank you (and John Slauson) for the advice about the path to the "other" External Functions DLLs directory C:\Documents and Settings\Michael Cullen\Local Settings\Application Data homson Reuters\MetaStock\Formulas\External Function DLLs. This explains how I could empty the External Functions DLLs directory and still have everything loaded on my Fujitsu Siemens Computer. As you say "impossible", but possible in these circumstances, ja! Well, read on!

However, on my ThinkPad, I did not create a user. I installed MS PRO 12 in exactly the same way, on the same day, on both computers. On my ThinkPad there is no directory C:\Documents and Settings\Michael Cullen\Local Settings\Application Data homson Reuters\MetaStock\Formulas\External Function DLLs. I did a complete search of all drives, and the only path to the External Functions DLLs directory on this computer is C:\Program Files homson Reuters RD 6\Program\External Function DLLs. I created a TEMP directory and removed all of the External Function DLLs to this directory, leaving the External Functions DLLs directory completely empty. I then Started MS12, created two indicators (1) ExtFml("Jurik_Functions.JR_JMA",C,9,100), and (2) ExtFml("ElderDisk.SafeZoneLong",5,5). They are running fine, updating in real time. For unknown reasons, though I deleted them, MS12 recreated DynamicTradingTools.dll, PointFig.dll, and Simulation.dll back in the External Functions DLLs directory when I sttarted MS12 back up again, but that has no effect on my indicators which use Jurik_Functions.dll and ElderDisk.dll.

It is not nice to have your word doubted when you can see with your own eyes the truth (I am watching it now). Impossible you say. Well I respectfully suggest you rethink your words. I can see that you have all the logic for why it can't happen, but it did happen.

I have been told by Metastock Tech Support once before that some work I did in the Sytem Tester in MS PRO 9.2 was impossible, so I sent it to Jose Silva (Metastock tools.com) with a note about how impossible it was, and Jose was so impressed that he gave me a standing invitation to visit him at his home in Thailand.

MS PRO 12 is a very new program with acknowledged bugs, which they say will not be fixed until the first revision, whenever that might be! It could be that the problem I have just experienced could be yet another bug. I assume you know about the bug in the System Tester that I referred to above.

As many others are using the Forum.dll without any trouble, and I have these strange troubles on both my computers, the compilation of Forum.dll must be ok. On that we can agree.

On my Fujitsu Siemens machine, in MS PRO 9.2, I completely removed all the DLLs from the External Functions directory, except for Forum.dll, and still got the same errors. Therefore I would think that it is not the other dll files that is causing the problem.

Also, I run Simulation functions in my simulations on the MS PRO 9.2 Enhanced System Tester, with the Forum.dll installed, with no problems.

I first bdiscovered that I had this problem when I tried to use the Custom SAR Indicator that was installed with the Jurik Indicators. I contacted Norman Smith at Jurik Research about it, because he had been helping me recently with a problem installing Jurik on MS12, and he said that he didn't support the 30 indicators that came with his installation. That left me wondering why Jurik installs them, says nothing about them in their documentation, and won't support them?

I have looked at the properties of Forum.dll, but I can't see what would be blocking it that should be changed. Could you give me an idea of what needs to be done to unblock it.

Thanks again for your help and thoughtful suggestions.

When I downloaded the file, I created a subdirectory of External Functions DLLs named "Forum ZIP", because it is a ZIP file. I downloaded Forum112.dll and Forum200.dll to this directory, unzipped the file, and copied Forum200.dll to the External Functions DLLs directory and changed its name. When this file bombed out, I deleted it and copied in Forum112.dll, changed its name, and tried it, but got the same result.

I will do it any way you suggest. I want to solve this issue as much as you.

Please send me a link that Forum.equis.com will allow me to access at your earliest opportunity.

I went through all my OS security settings in Administrative Tools\Local Security Policy, and changed the things that needed changing.

I did exactly as you asked, downloaded Forum200 to External Function DLLs directory, and unblocked the file and renamed it, but it didn't work and I still have the original problem.

Do you think it is possible that having MS PRO 9.2 and MS PRO 12 on the same drive could cause this problem?

I am using an indicator I wrote called MC SAR FORUM, and the code is:

A:=ExtFml("Jurik_Functions.JR_JMA",C,10,100);
A1:=ExtFml("Forum.HHVBARS",C,50);
A1:=ExtFml("Forum.CSAR",C,.02,.2);
A1:=ExtFml("ppEval.ArrayLoad",5,"C");
A1:=ExtFml( "GVf.Clear");
A1:=ExtFml("DynamicTradingTools.ResistanceManual", 10, 10);
A

So, I am trying to use the JMA function, which normally functions 100%.

The minute I insert the indicator in a new window in the chart, I get the error message "Debug Error!"

I hit the IGNORE button 9 times and the debug error message dissappears and the following message takes its place:

CUSTOM INDICATOR ERROR

The following error occurred while calculating MC SAR FORUM:

An MSX DLL has incorrectly produced results prior to the first loaded price data record.

Reference DLL “Forum.CSAR”

Remove this indicator from the chart

Keep this indicator in the chart

Don’t show future errors for this indicator in this chart

If I hit the ABORT button, the Debug Error message dissappears and I click the TOOLS\Indicator Builder button and nothing happens. I click FILE\Open and nothing happens, the program is alive but dead. Then the screen goes white, I click the X in the top right hand corner, and the program closes. I go to Task Manager, Click EquisFileSrv\End Process, and restart Metastock.

If I hit the RETRY button, I get the following message:

MSWIN

mswin has encountered a user-defined breakpoint

A breakpoint in an application indicates a program error. After this dialog is dismissed, the application will continue running, but it may be in an unstable state.

DEBUG CLOSE

If hit the DEBUG button, Metastock instantly closes. If I hit the CLOSE button, Metastock Closes.

If I now open Windows Explorer and delete Forum.dll and restart Metastock, Insert my indicator, the JMA comes up, a few Custom Indicator Error windows come up to tell me that Forum.dll is missing, and Metastock functions as normal.

My ThinkPad machine is only a few weeks old, and MS PRO 9.2 and 12 are brand new clean installations, though I exported all my custom indicators from my old laptop, and I migrated them to MS PRO 12. It came with XP Pro SP3 installed and I installed a few things like Microsoft Office 2007 and Norton Ghost. I do not use any pirated software. Yet I have the same problem with Forum.dll on the ThinkPad as I do on my older laptop. The two things they have in common are my custom indicators and dual MS PRO installations.

Thanks for all the valuable time you have given to my problem. If anything else occurs to you, please let me know. [:(]

Thanks wabbit.

Even though the issue remains unresolved you have been a great help, and I sincerely thank you for the time you have given and the effort you have made.

re."You shouldn't have too many troubles with any of the other functions in the forum.dll library.", the fact is that I can't use any of the forum.dll library.

Infact, I can't use any of the functions that reside in External Functions DLLs directory as long as Forum.dll remains in that directory. It precludes me from accessing any of the forum.dll library, or any other dll library in that directory.

Accordingly, until I resolve the issue, Forum.dll must be deleted from the External Functions DLLs directory, so that I can continue to use the Jurik_Functions.dll library, which I use in my working template and is critical to my intra day trading work.

[:D]