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analyst1012  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:02:42 PM(UTC)
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Hi All,

Are there any subscribers for reuters datalink. I am a susbcriber to reuters worldwide futures and indices and the quotes are not updated since Jan 07, 10. I am using metastock downloader v.o EoD 11.

When I try to download from Metastock downloader it ends up with red cross mark and when I double click for details it displays "Collection status: Host connection failed". Everything worked fine till Jan 07, 10 and the problem appeared from Jan 08,10. None of the settings were changed in my system. I tried by disabling antivirus software on my system (my firewall is disabled long back) still the problem persists. I contacted equis support and yet to get a proper solution from them.

Can someone help me on how to get about this. I am behind by 3 days and its impacting my analysis work. also interested to know are there anyone facing similar problem with reuters datalink.

Many thanks for the attention and support. rgds

Krishna

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#2 Posted : Thursday, January 14, 2010 11:03:07 AM(UTC)
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While the problem is not DIRECTLY related to Reuters DataLink, it does appear that when Reuters DataLink switched ISP's, users are going through a different route to get to the servers. Some users (We've had a small number of reports from Hong Kong, and South America) seem to be getting stuck at the same hop along the route. Here is a tracert excerpt:

6 136 ms 163 ms 131 ms sl-st30-mia-0-4-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.228.186.
117]
7 143 ms 143 ms 141 ms sl-crs1-mia-0-2-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.28.7
6]
8 171 ms 171 ms 167 ms sl-crs1-dc-0-6-0-3.sprintlink.net [144.232.18.11
4]
9 208 ms 211 ms 209 ms sl-crs1-rly-0-9-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.20.1
3]
10 158 ms 161 ms 209 ms sl-crs1-pen-0-5-2-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.20.2
11]
11 175 ms 163 ms 197 ms sl-crs1-nyc-0-4-0-1.sprintlink.net [144.232.20.1
22]
12 211 ms 167 ms 173 ms sl-gw29-nyc-6-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.13.16]
13 209 ms 215 ms 171 ms 144.232.168.2
14 * 169 ms 169 ms 63.175.28.2
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.

If you open a command prompt (Start-->Run-->CMD) and type in the following:

tracert quotes.reutersdatalink.com (and then press <Enter>)

Try and see where the last successful hop is. If the last hop you see is sprintlink.net and it starts timing out, you are likely running into the same problem. We will continue to investigate this, but we really need to get tracert screenshots (as well as confirming your host IP of origin via IPCONFIG) to try and work with the parties involved in this.

Just to clarify - this is more of an Internet Backbone related issue, not a Reuters DataLink issue, although it is obviously affecting some of our customers.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:21:04 PM(UTC)
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I have the same problem. I am located in Hong Kong. Can someone help us?
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#4 Posted : Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:50:34 PM(UTC)
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Hi Please find below the output of trace and ipconfig

Tracing route to quotes.reutersdatalink.com [192.165.218.19]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.2.1

2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 115.42.174.241

3 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms 115.42.134.105

4 12 ms 13 ms 38 ms 165.21.255.34

5 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms 165.21.255.33

6 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms ge-2-0-0.woodland.singnet.com.sg [165.21.12.66]

7 13 ms 14 ms 13 ms 203.208.191.101

8 14 ms 14 ms 13 ms xe-1-0-0-0.sngtp-cr2.ix.singtel.com [203.208.183.65]

9 211 ms 211 ms 210 ms so-2-0-2-0.plapx-cr3.ix.singtel.com [203.208.149.30]

10 201 ms 201 ms 201 ms ge-7-0-0-0.plapx-dr2.ix.singtel.com [203.208.183.182]

11 216 ms 211 ms 211 ms 203.208.145.90

12 211 ms 211 ms 210 ms po9-0.palcr1.paloalto.opentransit.net [193.251.240.165]

13 281 ms 281 ms 281 ms tengige0-12-0-0.nyktr1.newyork.opentransit.net [193.251.241.14]

14 280 ms 276 ms 277 ms gi9-0-0.nykcr4.newyork.opentransit.net [193.251.132.89]

15 277 ms 277 ms 277 ms 81.52.136.57

16 286 ms 286 ms 286 ms 81.52.136.34

17 * * * Request timed out.

18 * * * Request timed out.

19 * * * Request timed out.

20 * * * Request timed out.

21 * * * Request timed out.

22 * * * Request timed out.

23 * * * Request timed out.

24 * *

ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : prpc01

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : primpsg

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : primpsg

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) 82562V-2 10/100 Network Connection

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-09-94-23-35

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.3

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.5

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.5

Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.5

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, January 15, 2010 9:31:52 AM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, January 23, 2010 9:31:52 AM

thanks for the support and attention, regards.

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#5 Posted : Friday, January 15, 2010 3:47:47 PM(UTC)
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We've been seeing variations of this inability to connect and we're not sure these issues are all related. 81.52.136.34 is in fact the last hop you should be able to successfully tracert to.

Unfortunately in this case the true IP address listed in IPConfig is hidden. This is not that uncommon these days due to routers, etc. but it can make it a bit more difficult to troubleshoot these issues. Regardless, thank you for the additional information.

If you open a command prompt, can you try the following command?

telnet quotes.reutersdatalink.com 7983 and press <Enter>

If it works, the command prompt window will almost immediately blank itself out. If it fails, it will usually sit there at "Connecting to quotes.reutersdatalink.com on port 7983" for some time before eventually giving a time out message.

It is important to note that you must have the appopriate port open to authenticate. Ports 7983 through 7989 are all used to authenticate (depending on which data package you have). That said, we do know there are people that have been downloading successfully who now are not able to perform a successful telnet command. We will continue looking into this issue and working for a resolution.
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analyst1012  
#6 Posted : Sunday, January 17, 2010 11:23:46 PM(UTC)
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Hi,

Thanks for the info and guidance. please find below the response in cmd

C:\>telnet quotes.reutersdatalink.com 7983
Connecting To quotes.reutersdatalink.com...Could not open connection to the host
, on port 7983: Connect failed

C:\>

Let me know how I can resolve this and thanks for the support. rgds..

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#7 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2010 3:03:03 AM(UTC)
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I am having exactly the same problem and have not been able to use downloader since my last successful update on January 8. The last address when running the Tracert program is 63.175.28.2 I live in the Asia (Philippines) Today, Metastock refused to load saying it could not connect. It had been able to connect until last Friday 15 January Can support help please
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:19:33 AM(UTC)
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I am having the same problem. I am in Australia. tracert result: Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6002] Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\chipi>tracert quotes.reutersdatalink.com Tracing route to quotes.reutersdatalink.com [192.165.218.19] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms mygateway1.NB5Plus4W [192.168.1.1] 2 15 ms 28 ms 13 ms syd-nxg-men-bras1-lo-20.tpgi.com.au [10.20.20.14 6] 3 20 ms 11 ms 10 ms 220-245-178-66.tpgi.com.au [220.245.178.66] 4 11 ms 12 ms 10 ms syd-nxg-men-crt2-po-5.tpgi.com.au [202.7.171.5] 5 168 ms 168 ms 172 ms if-4-0-0.core3.SQN-SanJose.as6453.net [216.6.33. 1] 6 168 ms 168 ms 167 ms if-9-0-0.mcore4.PDI-PaloAlto.as6453.net [216.6.3 3.6] 7 173 ms 169 ms 170 ms ix-1-0.mcore4.PDI-PaloAlto.as6453.net [207.45.19 6.78] 8 172 ms 173 ms * sl-crs1-sj-0-12-0-2.sprintlink.net [144.232.8.24 0] 9 174 ms 173 ms 176 ms sl-crs2-stk-0-2-2-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.24.3 3] 10 214 ms 209 ms 214 ms sl-crs2-chi-0-15-3-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.24. 50] 11 241 ms 237 ms 264 ms sl-crs2-chi-0-10-2-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.20. 119] 12 237 ms 246 ms 242 ms sl-gw29-nyc-15-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.13.18 ] 13 240 ms 243 ms 241 ms 144.232.168.2 14 250 ms 242 ms 239 ms 63.175.28.2 15 * * * Request timed out. 16 * * * Request timed out. 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * * * Request timed out. 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 * * * Request timed out. 22 * * * Request timed out. 23 * * * Request timed out. 24 * * * Request timed out. 25 * * * Request timed out. 26 * * * Request timed out. 27 * * * Request timed out. 28 * * * Request timed out. 29 * * * Request timed out. 30 * * * Request timed out. Trace complete. I hope this issue will be resolved soon.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:29:25 AM(UTC)
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Hi. Encountering same problem fro Australia. tracert result: Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6002] Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\chipi>tracert quotes.reutersdatalink.com Tracing route to quotes.reutersdatalink.com [192.165.218.19] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms mygateway1.NB5Plus4W [192.168.1.1] 2 15 ms 28 ms 13 ms syd-nxg-men-bras1-lo-20.tpgi.com.au [10.20.20.14 6] 3 20 ms 11 ms 10 ms 220-245-178-66.tpgi.com.au [220.245.178.66] 4 11 ms 12 ms 10 ms syd-nxg-men-crt2-po-5.tpgi.com.au [202.7.171.5] 5 168 ms 168 ms 172 ms if-4-0-0.core3.SQN-SanJose.as6453.net [216.6.33. 1] 6 168 ms 168 ms 167 ms if-9-0-0.mcore4.PDI-PaloAlto.as6453.net [216.6.3 3.6] 7 173 ms 169 ms 170 ms ix-1-0.mcore4.PDI-PaloAlto.as6453.net [207.45.19 6.78] 8 172 ms 173 ms * sl-crs1-sj-0-12-0-2.sprintlink.net [144.232.8.24 0] 9 174 ms 173 ms 176 ms sl-crs2-stk-0-2-2-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.24.3 3] 10 214 ms 209 ms 214 ms sl-crs2-chi-0-15-3-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.24. 50] 11 241 ms 237 ms 264 ms sl-crs2-chi-0-10-2-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.20. 119] 12 237 ms 246 ms 242 ms sl-gw29-nyc-15-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.13.18 ] 13 240 ms 243 ms 241 ms 144.232.168.2 14 250 ms 242 ms 239 ms 63.175.28.2 15 * * * Request timed out. 16 * * * Request timed out. 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * * * Request timed out. 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 * * * Request timed out. 22 * * * Request timed out. 23 * * * Request timed out. 24 * * * Request timed out. 25 * * * Request timed out. 26 * * * Request timed out. 27 * * * Request timed out. 28 * * * Request timed out. 29 * * * Request timed out. 30 * * * Request timed out. Trace complete. Thanks and hope issue is resolved soon. Reagrds
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:52:03 AM(UTC)
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Hi,

as suggested by the administrator of this forum, i tried the option of authenticating the ports mentioned and still it did not solve the problem. i tried running the downloader on a different network and also from a different system. nothing seems to work out.

i guess this has some thing to do with that reuters server maintainence issue. as i received a message from reuters about their planned maintainence around jan 8 weekend and the last price update was on jan 7, 10.

either they have to work from their side to resolve the problem or we will have to look for alternatives having no other option. its 15 days without any data updates and everyone out there could easily understand whatz the implication of that.

can someone suggest for any good alternatives especially in commodities segment.

thanks and regards,

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#11 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:54:12 PM(UTC)
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Hi, I'm having exact same problem in south america (Brazil). Please find below tracert info. It is not working since I bought it 4 days ago. Seems that many people from different parts of the world are having this problem. Has Reuters recently changed its ISP or moved server to a new datacenter? Maybe there's a BGP route redistribution problem here. Tks and BR, Ed C:\Documents and Settings\elopes>tracert quotes.reutersdatalink.com Tracing route to quotes.reutersdatalink.com [192.165.218.19] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 40 ms 42 ms 39 ms 200-148-84-69.dsl.telesp.net.br [200.148.84.69] 4 41 ms 41 ms 40 ms 200-100-2-133.dsl.telesp.net.br [200.100.2.133] 5 41 ms 40 ms 40 ms 200-100-98-109.dial-up.telesp.net.br [200.100.98 .109] 6 43 ms 43 ms 45 ms Xe7-0-0-0-grtsanem2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net [213.140.50.69] 7 169 ms 205 ms 204 ms Xe5-1-1-0-grtmiabr3.red.telefonica-wholesale.net [84.16.15.46] 8 225 ms 204 ms 204 ms Xe9-2-0-0-grtdaleq1.red.telefonica-wholesale.net [213.140.49.189] 9 225 ms 204 ms 204 ms FranceTelecom-GE5-2-7-0-grtdaleq1.red.telefonica -wholesale.net [213.140.53.254] 10 225 ms 306 ms 306 ms gi1-0-0.chicr2.Chicago.opentransit.net [193.251. 132.49] 11 226 ms 306 ms 307 ms te2-2.chise1.Chicago.opentransit.net [193.251.24 0.230] 12 328 ms 306 ms 307 ms gi15-0.nykcr4.NewYork.opentransit.net [193.251.1 28.126] 13 244 ms 307 ms 306 ms 81.52.136.57 14 328 ms 307 ms 307 ms 81.52.136.34 15 * * * Request timed out. 16 * * * Request timed out. 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * * * Request timed out. 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 * * * Request timed out. 22 * * * Request timed out. 23 * * * Request timed out. 24 * * * Request timed out. 25 * * * Request timed out. 26 * * * Request timed out. 27 * * * Request timed out. 28 * * * Request timed out. 29 * * * Request timed out. 30 * * * Request timed out. Trace complete.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:41:12 PM(UTC)
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It worked yesterday evening and less than 24 hours after it is not working again.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:40:57 PM(UTC)
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Like many people who have contributed to document this problem, I have been unable to use my Downloader since 8 January. Has anybody heard from Reuters? Are they trying to solve the problem? Any news please Reuters
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#14 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2010 12:40:27 PM(UTC)
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There was an ISP changeover. The servers themselves did not move, and the large majority of customers are still getting through and downloading.

People that can get to these last hops:

13 244 ms 307 ms 306 ms 81.52.136.57
14 328 ms 307 ms 307 ms 81.52.136.34

^^--Supposedly there have been reports of fully powercycling/resetting the modems/routers in these cases has resolved the issue. Please try this to see if it helps.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For people that are getting stuck at Sprintlink.net as their last hop, this issue is still ongoing and being investigated. This has been escalated higher up in Reuters and work is definitely proceeding on this (although it obviously involves several parties, the ISP, backbone providers, etc.) and hopefully we'll have an update soon.
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#15 Posted : Sunday, January 24, 2010 10:37:09 PM(UTC)
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Any progress? This problem is now over 3 weeks old There must be hundreds of people affected
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#16 Posted : Monday, February 1, 2010 3:34:57 PM(UTC)
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This is a joke. 25 days without any support on this issue. No feedback from tech support. No answer to my email to Justin. What type of company is this?
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#17 Posted : Thursday, February 4, 2010 8:27:15 AM(UTC)
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I do not believe the customer impact is that large. That said, this does not change the importance of resolving this issue. The problem is that it is challenging to determine if the problem resides in the "public" vs. "private" portions of the internet. What I would suggest if you are having an unresolved connectivity issue (and were formerly connecting fine on the same internet connection) is to email support@equis.com with the following information / screenshots:

-Internet Service Provider
-http://www.whatismyip.com/ - email the IP address to us
-results of tracert
start-->run-->cmd-->tracert quotes.reutersdatalink.com
-results of telnet
start-->run-->cmd-->telnet quotes.reutersdatalink.com 7983 (or whichever port you use to collect data)
-results of ftp
start-->run-->cmd-->ftp 192.165.218.23

If you require technical help acquiring the above information, you can contact our support at 1-801-265-9998.

p.s. I don't really have anything set up to receive emails from here, nor is this really an official channel for support. That said, I do try to answer any private messages left here when I can, but again if you need immediate assistance with something I strongly recommend contacting through our support channels:

https://www.metastock.com/company/about/contact.aspx
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#18 Posted : Thursday, February 4, 2010 6:45:54 PM(UTC)
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Hi All,

The problems seems to be resolved. I am able to connect to reuters and the following is the message which I have received from reuters support team followed by my IT and their IT team interaction. Wish everyone are able to connect now.

Dear all,

I believe our engineers have found the root cause of the problem. It appears the new firewall that came with the new ISP, was using an outdated Martian Block list.
We are in the process of updating this list to no longer restrict recently allocated IP blocks.


Thank you for you patience.
Lead Support Representative, MetaStock
Thomson Reuters

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#19 Posted : Tuesday, February 9, 2010 12:48:56 AM(UTC)
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This problem is far from fixed. As a customer of 5 years+ I have never had this problem quite so bad. The last 2 weeks or so have been hellish. And today it has packed up completely. After the 10th attempt at downloading my EOD prices I am now going to look for an alternative supplier. Life is just too short.

Yes, I've been thru tech support (aka Tom) and whilst I can Telnet, FTP and my TracerT looks mostly normal, I still have the irritating problem that my download "hangs" after "retreiving quotes" has finished.

In my opinion the technology they use is just too fragile for today's web. I have built my own bulletproof data retrieval platform (for mountains of fundamental data that I need) and I know from experience that you need to build in certain latency (e.g. retry and retry a certain packet after a timeout; just keep going; involve the user if necessary; but never, never, never have to start again if you come across connection problems).

Does anyone have any other recommendations for BULLET PROOF (and FAST) suppliers of US EOD Stock prices?

Many thanks.

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#20 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:25:12 PM(UTC)
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I believe you are encountering a different issue than the ones recently affecting some users. The tracert was a bit misleading initially and we were working with an incorrect assumption that the different "hops" listed above were the determining factor of success.

With the new ISP, there are potentially 2 routes one could travel through to get to our servers. The 63. and 81. ip address BOTH work. We have customers that have collected data successfully when the trace goes to either path. The trace will always stop at one of those two hops, regardless of one's ability to download data.

The problem you are encountering seems to be different. Basically when The DownLoader logs you in, it maintains 1 connection all the time, and an FTP connection that is re-established with each zip file.

"Logging you on to Reuters DataLink"-->Establishes a connection to our authentication server (i.e. Port 7983). This connection HAS to remain connected in order to send multiple FTP files in the next step:

"Starting Data Retrieval...Waiting for Data...etc"-->Establishes an FTP connection to a different set of servers. After each FTP transfer (we zip I believe 200 symbols per zip file) is sent, The DownLoader tries to talk with that very first connection we made at Logging on. It does this to basically say "Hey I'm done with the last FTP download, clean that up and send me the next ZIP file".

With some customers, it seems like they end up losing the connection to our authentication server. So what happens is when one of the zip files finishes, the FTP connection closes, then The DownLoader tries to talk to that authentication server. It is unable to do so, and it appears that the download is "hanging" after one of the data files was sent.

It has been very difficult to track down why this is happening to a handful of users. Hopefully with the information you provided we might be able to see more specifically what is occurring when you lose the connection.

I use a cable connection at home, and have tested downloads with over 60,000 symbols and requesting the full amount of history we have. I've never had a download failure. Every time I've done a test here at the office I've successfully collected as well. I am not mentioning this to lessen your concerns, but just to show that in a large number of cases, most users do not run into this issue. You are certainly not the only one affected by this, however.
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