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I'm am just SICK TO DEATH of having my inner windows of every chart resize themselves randomly every time they're opened!
I'm running Win7 Ultimate 64 and MetaStock 11 (unchanged since release, of course) and have tried all your suggestions, Equis. I've scrapped all my charts, reloaded them with the Clean template, rebuilt them with my newly-created Default template - NONE of this works! I waste a significant amount of time every single day just resizing inner windows to make them readable and useful.
Are you EVER planning to bring this program into the 21st Century, or is it doomed to remain an unfixed, unpatched and rickety Window 95-level application?
How many generations of MetaStock have been released without any significant compatibility improvements with newer versions of Windows - three?
You've milked this cow dry, Equis; hire some programmers who actually release updates more often than every 4 years and get it FIXED, please.
It's just embarrassing.
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Just out of curiosity, does it happen if you "Run As Admin" or change your User Type to Admin?
Also, it may not be a proper solution, but did you try installing under Virtual XP?
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I'm also running Win7 Ultimate 64 and Metastock 11.
I've tried clicking on the Restore Down button (unminimize) and clicking on the Maximize button. It seems to work for me.
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Hi Johnathan,
My user type has always been Admin and I've had it set to Run As Admin with occasional success; it's not a reliable fix.
Have also found that removing the inner-window title bars helps, but again doesn't seem to work every time.
Have not tried Virtual XP, but IIRC MS 11 doesn't like to run virtually, right?
Thanks for your reply.
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haddison wrote:I'm also running Win7 Ultimate 64 and Metastock 11.
I've tried clicking on the Restore Down button (unminimize) and clicking on the Maximize button. It seems to work for me. That doesn't make any difference on my system, but thanks for the suggestion. Anybody remember the last time an update was issued for MS 11? Has there even been one?
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PTJim wrote:Have not tried Virtual XP, but IIRC MS 11 doesn't like to run virtually, right?
Hi Jim. Contact support directly, and see if they have either an interim release that will work in Virtual PC, or a work-around. In the FWIW Dept: -------------------- Personally, I still run MS 9.1 under XP on slightly heavy hardware, as I have little desire to wrestle with yet another DRM scheme -- especially for software that has not had a significant update since version 8.x. I have three add-ons that use DRM, and frankly, they're a pain in the ass -- move the SAME video card from one slot to another, and you need a new damn code! Returned a new WinVista machine after 3 weeks of testing; its file system wasn't backward compatible with MS, Vista couldn't even print properly and the DRM software wouldn't work with Vista! As for Win7, it has a very definite place around here -- on a dedicated PC, whose purpose in life is serving as a Broadcast TV DVR, DVD/BluRay player & NetFlix access on a big flatscreen. It boots up to Media Center & pretty much stays there, except for very occassional email & browsing, which I do more & more on iPad. I actually like the ROKU player better, for NetFlix & Amazon Prime, anyway -- the controller is so simple that my youngest has used it since she was 3 1/2! It seems Microsoft is losing it, Equis is milking it, and touch-pads are the future...
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I know what you mean; I stuck with XP on my main system as long as I could, but Win7 64-bit runs pretty well and makes good use of large installed RAM.
I tried running my MS 9.1 several different ways, but finally gave up and upgraded to MS 11 to run on this platform. So many tricks, disabled features and crutches to get it working even then. I keep 9.1 on other machines running XP, but have to live with the 2-machine DRM in version 11. Buggers.
What seems to be working for me now, and restores charts with inner windows at stable sizes is:
- Run as Administrator
- Disable Aero and other fancy Win7 video features
- Remove inner-window title bars
The last seems to make the most difference, as the title bars seem to cause a lot of interference with inner-window sizes when you tile open charts and then try to maximize one or more for examination.
Years after Win7's release, it's appalling that Equis hasn't brought MetaStock into the 21st century.
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PTJim wrote:- Remove inner-window title bars Interesting...Have you tried just that alone? I have *occassionally* run into sub-window glitches, but FWIW I have always removed title & split bars; it makes a cleaner chart.
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jjstein wrote:PTJim wrote:- Remove inner-window title bars Interesting...Have you tried just that alone? No, until just now. I turned off Run As Admin (but left Windows video settings alone) and no title bars except for one - the main price chart which occupies about 50% of the total chart space; I want to see the numeric values of today's indicators shown there. It worked the first couple times I tried to re-tile and restore to full screen. That's not conclusive, though; I've had this work for a little while and fail later on, so I'll keep it this way for now and see how it goes. UPDATE 4Aug12: It's still working after a few more days and cycles. So far, it seems the inner-window title bars are the main culprit when the inner-window sizing gets messed up. So why isn't MS correctly storing and remembering those sizes when reopening the chart?
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Faulty chart inner windows- I have been plagued by the same problem for ages. As soon as I save multiple charts as a layout , tiled, and re-open the layout, all the chart inner windows are bunched up and collapsed. Only the lowest inner window down the page displays. I stopped using Title Bars as they use up too much space. Just the splitter bars. So it is NOT the title bars. Is it faulty programing in Metastock? IT makes keeping charts a chore and a waste of time re-arranging inner windows- becasue the re-arranging does not give main space the the price plot- and so I have to resize all 5 inner windows anyway to make main space for the price plot. Any reasonable suggestions from MS, or is this thread a VOID??? What about a solution or patch for this problem MS?
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Try turning off the splitter bars.
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This has been an issue since version 5 (our first windows version). We found several causes and have made corrections with each update. From these changes, the occurances of this has decreased, but we do still occasionally hear of it. We are still seeking ways to improve the charts so this does not happen, but are hampered by its erractic nature.
Unlike other issues, we can not force a chart to start doing this. Once it starts happening, the chart usually has be replaced for it to stop. However, there is no specific sequence of actions we have found that make a new clean chart start behaving this way.
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Thanks for the reply. I really appreciate it. I think jjstein has the solution with a slight variance. I removed the splitter bars (Right click open Chart>Chart window properties>uncheck "show inner windows splitter bars" and uncheck "show value in title bars". However, I limit the number of charts displayed in the layout and it works at 12, with "tile". At more they bunch up. The rest I keep minimised. And I made the default template a chart without splitter bars. Hope this helps.
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