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I just bought metastock pro 8.0 from ebay (you might guess w/out any manuals). Until I learn how to use it I would like to be able to download free eod data from yahoo or some other site. Is there a freebie converter out there which would allow me to do that? I've started using MetaQuote which seems to work quite well, but they want a hundred bucks to license it.
Which reminds me. It takes an unearthly long (hourly) amount of time to download the data use MetaQuote. Does it normally take a long time do download the eod data? Using Telechart gold is 15-20 minutes and all of the data is instantly there at my fingertips.
Also, In TeleChart they have a list called All Stocks thats lists all the stocks without having to change from one market to another. Is there any such critter in MS please? It seems old already to change from, say, S&P 500 to Nasdaq or Amex just to look at a different stock.
Which reminds me I've never been able to download Nasdaq chart data. I'm curious as to why?
I suppose I'm the only person in the world who has ever asked if it is worthwhile to consider a future upgrade to the latest & greatest version. Perhaps I should be patient and wait if there is a future major upgrade coming down the pipeline? What would those of you, who know, advise me to do please?
If you would rather email me I'd appreciate any enlightening information possible. My email is mail to: artlin at hughes dot net.
Thanks for listening and any advice you have to offer
Art
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Groups: Registered, Registered Users Joined: 3/19/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,995
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Hi Art-
Welcome to the forum!
There are several threads here on the forum regarding the use of "free" data. Start by scanning the ones in the Data-Related forum. Conversion will depend on the data provider. If you want a broad sword, you'll wind up licensing someone's application to do it for you. If you are looking at sticking with a specific data provider, you might be able to get by writing your own conversion utility or adapting one of the few posted here on the forum.
Speaking of licensing, before you get too excited (or bummed), you might want to check the Equis End User License Agreement regarding the purchase of your product off of Ebay... specifically regarding authorization, support and future upgrades. If you have any questions after that, you can contact Equis Sales.
The time required to d/l the data will depend on several factors, including the amount of data being d/l'd (updated or created); and, the connection speed. This is variable amongst users. If you are unable to d/l certain symbols, check the d/l report and/or the format of the symbol you are trying to d/l and make sure it is compatible with your data provider.
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Groups: Registered, Registered Users Joined: 4/27/2005(UTC) Posts: 126 Location: Italy
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I use HQuote Pro Downloader that costs usd 59. Have a look at http://www.hquotes.com/. It works well with Metastock.
Maurizio
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Groups: Registered, Registered Users Joined: 11/28/2005(UTC) Posts: 276 Location: Salt Lake City, UT
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Welcome to the forum.
I just want to add to clarify, it is not legal to purchase the software from eBay.
You are not eligable for upgrades or support.
For your future reference, most, if not all, companies have that same rule.
As for data, I would obviously recomend Reuters DataLink.
It is very cheap for the speed and accuaracy that you get.
You get access to a lot of data, early, fast, and reliable.
Also, it goes directly into MetaStock and the DownLoader without any extra utility or conversion program.
If you want a more unbiased reason, I actually have tried multiple data vendors, and have honestly found Reuters Datalink to be the fastest by far.
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Groups: Registered, Registered Users Joined: 6/26/2006(UTC) Posts: 4
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>>>I just want to add to clarify, it is not legal to purchase the software from eBay.
I am wondering why, if it is a legal copy?? I pulled out my disk and looked at the agreement (ver. 8.0) of which I found nothing about reselling a legal version, let alone specifically ebay or any other means. I'm not intending to be obstinent here, but attempting an understanding on this matter :( :eek:
I appreciate everyones input on this matter. It is beginning to look like (after only a few days) I'm more favoring my Telechart anyhows. It is lacking in the indicator(s) ability that ms has, but is far more user-friendly and has powerful features I'd find it difficult to live without at this time. I would of really been blown away had I had to pay hundreds of dollars first just to find this out.
I realize there are multitudes who have followed Moses out of the desert and love MS and to you I salute. And am sincerely happy for you. So please do not flame me for what I just said. I'm just a newbie trying to find my niche <g> in this corner of the world. It's probably this hot Oklahoma sun burning my brain.
Again, thanks for your inputs. I appreciate the past thoughts and recommendations, and any future you might have.
art
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Groups: Registered, Registered Users Joined: 11/28/2005(UTC) Posts: 276 Location: Salt Lake City, UT
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alindsley wrote:>>>I just want to add to clarify, it is not legal to purchase the software from eBay.
I am wondering why, if it is a legal copy?? I pulled out my disk and looked at the agreement (ver. 8.0) of which I found nothing about reselling a legal version, let alone specifically ebay or any other means. I'm not intending to be obstinent here, but attempting an understanding on this matter :( :eek:
The problem is it isn't a legal copy.
Most companies can sell their product and count on the user not having returned it or the disc being required to run in order to know someone hasn't purchased a product, installed it, then sold it to someone else while they still use it.
Selling software isn't usually legal for that reason. Someone can buy it, use it, and get their money back.
You just don't know what the seller is doing.
alindsley wrote:I appreciate everyones input on this matter. It is beginning to look like (after only a few days) I'm more favoring my Telechart anyhows. It is lacking in the indicator(s) ability that ms has, but is far more user-friendly and has powerful features I'd find it difficult to live without at this time. I would of really been blown away had I had to pay hundreds of dollars first just to find this out.
I realize it is a bit late since you already got a copy from eBay, but you could have saved all your money and ordered the product from us.
We have a 30 day money back guarantee.
If you didn't like it, you would have got your money back after returning the product.
Now you know for future versions if you decide to try us again in the future.
Also, when you purchase the product from us, you can call our free support and they'll happily walk you through any questions you have on how to use the product.
Not that I want to promote the software you got from eBay, but the manual under the Help menu has all the same content as the manual you say you're missing and I'm sure the people here on the forum are still willing to help you learn whatever you need to get going.
Another note, I just noticed you say you got version 8.
You may want to give a copy from us a try.
We are currently selling version 9.2 for QuoteCenter and 9.1 for the other data vendors.
Again, when you purchase the software from us, you will be eligable for a discounted upgrade price and free support over chat, email, and phone.
Good luck with your trading and I hope you find what it is you're looking for.
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Groups: Registered, Registered Users Joined: 6/26/2006(UTC) Posts: 4
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Thank you for the kind reply Brandon. I had thought I had done my due research before buying, but what you say makes sense.
What "hooked" me on telechart in the beginning was the fact I didn't have to lay out a hugh amount of cash for the software. They evidently make their money by being the data provider. You, who have been around for awhile obviously do not mind the cash outlay, but it's more difficult for the one beginning (cashback guarantee or not).
I will consider 9.2 soon. BTW! Do we know when Ver 10 will be released? Is that to be soon? And does anybody know anything of the new features as yet?
Again thank you (& for not ragging on me <g>).
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Groups: Registered, Registered Users Joined: 11/28/2005(UTC) Posts: 276 Location: Salt Lake City, UT
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alindsley wrote:Thank you for the kind reply Brandon. I had thought I had done my due research before buying, but what you say makes sense.
Glad it helped.
alindsley wrote:What "hooked" me on telechart in the beginning was the fact I didn't have to lay out a hugh amount of cash for the software. They evidently make their money by being the data provider.
If that pricing plan is what you're after, you may be interested to know we have a deal that sounds like that.
You basically get the software free (on lease terms) with a subscription to our EOD data from Reuters DataLink.
Catch is the software only works as long as you're subscribed to the data.
Or you can buy the software and use it with other data providers.
alindsley wrote:You, who have been around for awhile obviously do not mind the cash outlay, but it's more difficult for the one beginning (cashback guarantee or not).
Honestly, I actually agree with you. I think it is a lot of money, but would be happy about the guarantee.
Though, I'd probably give a one month subscription (software on lease with data) a try and see how I like it.
alindsley wrote:I will consider 9.2 soon. BTW! Do we know when Ver 10 will be released? Is that to be soon? And does anybody know anything of the new features as yet?
As much as I'd like to answer all those questions, I have to leave them unananswered. Sorry.
alindsley wrote:Again thank you (& for not ragging on me <g>).
No problem. Feel free to ask your questions, I'll answer the ones I can.
I think if you call up our sales department, you'll find we're pretty reasonable about trying to get you what you're looking for and then we have an excellent support department to answer your questions about using the software.
Also, don't forget the people on this forum, they are really an amazing help.
I just started trying to use our software to do some paper trading and I have been reading through the posts here to get a better idea how to use our software to do well.
I found setting up the software to be a bit frustrating and I know we have some things we need to fix/add (I am actually tempted to write a few utilities to put on this forum) but after getting set up, I have found the software to be quite flexible and easy to use from day to day after that.
So, if you continue to try the software and find something you find frustrating or wish was there or not, please post it in the wish list area. We are looking at that for future versions and sometimes you'll find what you're wishing for is already there, but you may have missed it (I've done that one).
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hey art.... she does get hot along about now in oklahoma.... the next 3 months are the best times to go to brinkley's monthly auction in idabel.... the competitive crowd runs inversely propotional to the heat, if ya know what i mean.....
wordens deal has improved drasticaly over the last 4 years, but then they all have..... of everything i've tried, which almost everything out there, metastock has payed the best for me.... i'm running it every market day all day ........
you don't need metastock to make money..... gozillions of dollars were made long before it or wordens were even thought of.... but programs like them sure bring our trading up to a more competitive level....
it took me a good while to get aholt on it .... without patrick's and marilyn's help, i might've moved on..... now after using it 2 years , kinda hard to think of using anything else.....
don't over look the value of the equis forum...... i read wordens forum all the time, it's enlightning but seems like only a few are handling most posts......... the equis forum and those such as yahoometa has dozens of very longtime users that have been there done that..... patrick, marilyn , henry, roy, wabbit, jose , preston, george to name a few......good luck with ya choice.....h
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alindsley wrote:Also, In TeleChart they have a list called All Stocks thats lists all the stocks without having to change from one market to another. Is there any such critter in MS please? It seems old already to change from, say, S&P 500 to Nasdaq or Amex just to look at a different stock.
If you are looking in the symbol database, Select North America Stocks (or Stocks Common, depending on vendor and version) for the type and then All for the Group.
If you are looking at the vendor Open dialog it is basically the same, just stop going down the folders when you get to the folder you want (Stocks Common or North America Stocks) and don't open the specific group.
I'm not sure what it is you're looking at since you don't sound as though you're using a data provider that we support built in (eSignal, QCharts, Reuters DataLink, or QuoteCenter).
I have never used MetaQuote so I don't know what they have done to seperate the stocks.
You may be stuck when you get your data from them.
I hope that helps
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StorkBite wrote:Equis International wrote:Brandon is representing Equis with his comments--it's not just his opinion. Every week Equis has to contact a rep at eBay to pull our product(s) off because it is not legal to resell them. It’s in direct violation of our license agreement to resell any of our products. We try to stop the auctions the best that we can, but there are always some that go through. It’s not a fast process and unfortunately it doesn’t stop some from opening another account. Some are selling older versions that aren’t using it anymore and some are mass producing copies and selling them for whatever they can get. The person selling the software on eBay is the one who is violating the license agreement. The buyer is the one who gets the short end of it because he cannot get free tech support from us or upgrade it to newer versions.
USE OF SOFTWARE: If Equis provides you with Software or access to Software, you may only use Software in accordance with the instructions, and in connection with the Services. You are granted a non-exclusive, non-transferable right to use any Software provided as part of any Service.
LIMITATIONS ON USE:You may only make one copy of the Software for archive or backup purposes. You must erase or destroy any Software upon termination of these Terms. You may not reverse engineer, decompile, or dissemble the Software, except and only to the extent that such activity is expressly permitted by applicable law notwithstanding this limitation. You may not rent, lease or lend or directly or indirectly transfer the Software to any third party.
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I have contacted ebay, as well as the seller, attaching a copy of what you just explained to me and asking for my money back. As a Christian, my desire is to have legal software on my computer. However, I fear you have just spoken to another ebay fraud victim. Time will tell. Brandon was of great help explaining your position. He deserves a raise, or at the very least a pat on the back.
At this time if version 8.0 is an example, I am not sure I would care to trade the powerful aspects of my Telechart. Besides, I did not have to pay hundreds of dollars up front just to check it out. Did not have to be concerned with a money back guarantee, for my only outlay is the data. I must admit there are indicator features in Metastock I would like to see incorporated into my TC. Perhaps as their next version is released some of that may happen. Also TC downloads my data much, much faster, and some of their features I have come to rely on, are not to be found anywhere in MS.
I will uninstall Metastock so as to be "legal" with those lawyers who have written the rules to protect your income. For I would surely hate to offend a business as large as Equis by using an outdated version of Metastock.
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Groups: Registered, Registered Users Joined: 11/28/2005(UTC) Posts: 276 Location: Salt Lake City, UT
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alindsley wrote:I have contacted ebay, as well as the seller, attaching a copy of what you just explained to me and asking for my money back. As a Christian, my desire is to have legal software on my computer. However, I fear you have just spoken to another ebay fraud victim. Time will tell. Brandon was of great help explaining your position. He deserves a raise, or at the very least a pat on the back.
At this time if version 8.0 is an example, I am not sure I would care to trade the powerful aspects of my Telechart. Besides, I did not have to pay hundreds of dollars up front just to check it out. Did not have to be concerned with a money back guarantee, for my only outlay is the data. I must admit there are indicator features in Metastock I would like to see incorporated into my TC. Perhaps as their next version is released some of that may happen. Also TC downloads my data much, much faster, and some of their features I have come to rely on, are not to be found anywhere in MS.
I will uninstall Metastock so as to be "legal" with those lawyers who have written the rules to protect your income. For I would surely hate to offend a business as large as Equis by using an outdated version of Metastock.
Well, I am glad you gave us a try, but I do hope you really give us a try with our latest version and with our data (then you can see how fast data should be).
Even if you don't, maybe you could tell us in the wish list area what it was that you didn't like or what was missing in order to help us improve.
Either way, I hope everything works out for you and thank you for understanding.
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