just noticed another site posted a large collection of meta formulas..... really nothing more than a copy of collections from other sources but still it helps..... added it to my meta folder already containing hundreds of web pages with thousands of formulas..... it would take days to manualy go through that folder.... so whats the value... microsoft's search function can turn days in to seconds...... by right clicking on that folder the text box will come up.... click on search..... now the search results box comes up.... type in the formula or part that your looking for.... click search.... odds are that someone has posted something along that line.... it will return the web pages that contain your phrase/formula.... once your on that web page , if its a big one, you might want to search it ..... click on edit at the top by file, choose 'find on this page', then type in the find what.... windows will find and highlight it for you..... finding this"x:=If(x=1,O,If(x=2,H,If(x=3,L,If(x=5,WC(),If(x=6,P,C))))); " could take days the hard way, but less than 20 seconds the microsoft way..... and just what the heck was that we found, now that i'll turn over to jose......h