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mixter  
#1 Posted : Monday, January 14, 2013 5:21:33 AM(UTC)
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I am looking inidcator formula for help to create EMA 5 Hi and Low channel band on weekly price.

Also , I like to test this channel via system tester .

And , the explorrer will asist in picking the stocks on the followin g conditions.

The below is the subject of the 5 ema hi low .


The7 Strategy : EMA Hi-Low Channel

Place a 5 EMA High and 5 EMA Low on the chart.
SELL when red candle closes inside the channel, when the open is outside ieopen >5emaHI band
BUY when green candle closes inside the channel. when the open is outside ie open <5ema Low band
Closing candle has to open outside the channel to become a valid signal.
Let it run until you see opposite signal. Stop Loss is high/low from last candle.

If the candle closes inside the channel (5Ema High and 5 Ema Low) I immediately enter the trade. No buffer, no extra rules.
If the candle touches both sides of the channel, I like to avoid the entry...
The only other confirmation I always look is: Pinbars, Engulfing bars, Round number rejections(...00 and ...50)
The 5 Ema channel gives us a good feel where the market is heading. If we have a long trend followed with a short candle which opens outside but closes inside the channel we close the long trade and enter a short.
If the signal candle has a wick towards the direction of the trade, try to avoid the entry. If there are long wicks on both sides the candle, avoid the entry.It shows uncertainty. The only wick we want to see is a pinbar...

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#2 Posted : Monday, January 14, 2013 5:56:05 AM(UTC)
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I'm surprised that as a member for nearly four years, your first post shows no sign of any effort to code this simple requirement yourself, or a basic understanding of the MS User Manual and the Formula Primer learning. wabbit [:D]
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#3 Posted : Monday, January 14, 2013 6:12:49 AM(UTC)
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wabbit wrote:
I'm surprised that as a member for nearly four years, your first post shows no sign of any effort to code this simple requirement yourself, or a basic understanding of the MS User Manual and the Formula Primer learning. wabbit [:D]


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First thanks for the reply to my first post here.

Second, I tried the coding , but the result is not as I expected. When I test the system tester, which shows “had errors “”

Moreover, my interest was on mt4 with forex in those years and often dust off my metastock . So, I am here …after 4 years with little /late exposure to metastock ver 10 .

So , I am here to ask the help .

MY attempted code was :

C>O and O<mov(L,5,E) and C>mov(L,5,e) ……………long

here I want to say the close should be less than ….<mov(H,5,e)

C<O and O>mov(H,5,E) and c>mov(H,5,E)……………short

here I want to say the close should be greater than ….>mov(H,5,e) also

I ran the sys $ and it showed me had errors .

With the same formula, I tried the explorer, but the result was not as I expected.

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#4 Posted : Monday, January 14, 2013 6:56:30 AM(UTC)
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Please use the proper code tags when posting code to differentiate it from text.

Use variables as it simplifies the maintenance of your code, and code each condition separately, adding conditions as required, like:

Code:

prd:=5;

LowMA:=mov(L,prd,E);
HighMA:=mov(H,prd,E);

LongEntry:=
C>O and
O<LowMA and
C>LowMA and
C<HighMA;

ShortEntry:=
C<O and
O>HighMA and
C>HighMA and
C>HighMA;

{plot}
LongEntry - ShortEntry;


By doing this, we can see you have some redundant logic: in the LongEntry, if O<LowMA and C>LowMA, it follows that C>O, so the first condition is not required. In the ShortEntry, "
here I want to say the close should be greater than ….>mov(H,5,e) also" is already defined, so you need to think more about what you're trying to achieve.

Go back to the original criteria and code each line/requirement:


mixter wrote:
Place a 5 EMA High and 5 EMA Low on the chart.


Code:

prd:=5;

LowMA:=mov(L,prd,E);
HighMA:=mov(H,prd,E);


mixter wrote:
SELL when red candle closes inside the channel, when the open is outside ieopen >5emaHI band


Code:

redCandle:=C<O;
greenCandle:=C>O;
{what about the situation when C=O?}

Sell:=
redCandle and
C>LowMA and
C<HighMA and
O>HighMA;


mixter wrote:
BUY when green candle closes inside the channel. when the open is outside ie open <5ema Low band


Code:

Buy:=
greenCandle and
C<HighMA and
C>LowMA and
O<LowMA;


mixter wrote:
Closing candle has to open outside the channel to become a valid signal.


This is alrady covered by the conditions above

mixter wrote:
Let it run until you see opposite signal. Stop Loss is high/low from last candle.


Latching the signals can come later, get the entry signals right first.

mixter wrote:
If the candle closes inside the channel (5Ema High and 5 Ema Low) I immediately enter the trade. No buffer, no extra rules.


Except by the conditions mentioned below?!

mixter wrote:
If the candle touches both sides of the channel, I like to avoid the entry...


Code:

Straddle:=
H>=HighMA and
L<=LowMA;


mixter wrote:
The only other confirmation I always look is: Pinbars, Engulfing bars, Round number rejections(...00 and ...50)


You need to write definitions for each of these conditions

mixter wrote:
The 5 Ema channel gives us a good feel where the market is heading. If we have a long trend followed with a short candle which opens outside but closes inside the channel we close the long trade and enter a short.


Code:

Buy:=Buy and Straddle=0;
Sell:=Sell and Straddle=0;

{plot}
Buy-Sell;


mixter wrote:
If the signal candle has a wick towards the direction of the trade, try to avoid the entry. If there are long wicks on both sides the candle, avoid the entry.It shows uncertainty. The only wick we want to see is a pinbar...


You're programming a computer to generate signals, either it generates signals or it doesn't, there is no "try".

There should be enough here to get you started. Keep working then post your completed code.


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#5 Posted : Monday, January 14, 2013 7:14:29 AM(UTC)
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Thank you Wabbit .

I will post my code when I finished .

I appreciate your help and taking time for me.

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#6 Posted : Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:48:08 AM(UTC)
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I am getting " Had Errors " status for the below under System Tester .

I donot know where is the wrong in the below formula for the system tester.
Metastock ver 10.1

System Tester for 5 EMA Hi-Low channel weekly

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Buy Order

C>O and

O<mov(L,5,E) and

C>mov(L,5,E) and

C<mov(H,5,E);

Sell Order

C<O and

O>mov(H,5,E) and

C>mov(H,5,E) and

C>mov(H,5,E);

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mixter

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, January 15, 2013 6:26:51 PM(UTC)
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What do the EST logs (Result Details View) records show?

Please post the full system report.


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mixter  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, January 16, 2013 2:19:23 AM(UTC)
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Please refer the System Report logs.

I did run with different data sets : fx., S&P and other country equities.

It seems the selection of more than 500 test data will end with error msg - my take !!!

Below the copy of simulation display for the data runs.

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Name # of Results Status Date

5 Ema Hi Low A-L 501 Had errors. 16/01/13 12:24:08

5 EMA Hi Low Gr A 228 Completed. 16/01/13 12:15:20

5 EMA Hi Low Fx 87 Completed. 16/01/13 12:13:24

EMA 5 S & P 265 Completed. 16/01/13 12:09:45

=====================================================

Could not attach the file,

Copy and paste the few inital lines at the top of the report.\

Summary

5 EMA Hi-Low channel weekly ( Removed the nameof equity )

Simulation Date 16/01/13 12:24:09 371 Weekly Bars 16/12/05 Through 15/01/13 (2587 Days)


Performance

Profit $46836.80

Performance 468.37 % Annualized Performance 66.08 % Buy & Hold Profit $10620.00

Buy & Hold Performance 106.20 % Buy & Hold Annualized Performance 14.98 %

Trade Summary

Total Trades 5

Trade Efficiency 42.86 % Average Prof

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#9 Posted : Wednesday, January 16, 2013 4:11:42 PM(UTC)
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Keep working through the 5 Ema Hi Low A-L reports to find the errors.


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#10 Posted : Wednesday, January 16, 2013 4:32:42 PM(UTC)
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In my experience the "Had Errors" are caused by bad data, things like Open/High/Low/Close equal to zero. It's good practise to add an indicator to check your data for errors. For example:

An indicator that plots a 1 when the open or close is outside the High/Low range:

O<L OR C<L OR O>H OR C>H

An indicator that plots a 1 when one of the price fields are zero:

O = 0 OR
H = 0 OR
L = 0 OR
C = 0

You'll be surprised how many errors you'll find (although this is more likely with free data).

Also, make sure that the date range for system testing is the same as the date range of your data files.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, January 17, 2013 12:21:49 AM(UTC)
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haddison wrote:
In my experience the "Had Errors" are caused by bad data, things like Open/High/Low/Close equal to zero. It's good practise to add an indicator to check your data for errors. For example:

An indicator that plots a 1 when the open or close is outside the High/Low range:

O<L OR C<L OR O>H OR C>H

An indicator that plots a 1 when one of the price fields are zero:

O = 0 OR
H = 0 OR
L = 0 OR
C = 0

You'll be surprised how many errors you'll find (although this is more likely with free data).

Also, make sure that the date range for system testing is the same as the date range of your data files.

When I select more than 500 data set , the system shows errors and when it is <500, I am getting completed report.

When the system shows warnings that I am selecting more than 500 data to scan, only that scan reports have " Had Errors"message. If I select number of data as per the system ie <500, my scan report comes out completed.

I am using paid data through data vendors for a longtime and good till now.

Yes. I am verifying the date range with the data files .

Thanks

mixter.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:31:23 AM(UTC)
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If you're concerned with the quality of your data, use the Test feature in the Downloader. As one of the commonest error reports is data out of sequential order, it's sometimes better to sort all your data first before running the test. Be warned though: the Downloader test does make some spurious reports of error where there are no errors! (Yet another detail to be fixed by Equis... just add it to the already-long to do list)


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#13 Posted : Thursday, January 17, 2013 4:03:44 AM(UTC)
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wabbit wrote:
If you're concerned with the quality of your data, use the Test feature in the Downloader. As one of the commonest error reports is data out of sequential order, it's sometimes better to sort all your data first before running the test. Be warned though: the Downloader test does make some spurious reports of error where there are no errors! (Yet another detail to be fixed by Equis... just add it to the already-long to do list)

wabbit [:D]

Please pass this one too for the Equis to do list .....[:)]

Fib default setting to go and user defined fib lines to stay .

Even people a decade ago using the (Metastock) fibs will realise this setting is still here today without giving free hand to the users for modifications!!!

hmmmm...or the new ver have it / will have??

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#14 Posted : Thursday, January 17, 2013 11:48:41 PM(UTC)
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In the last couple of days, I was trying to find out the resource for the " Had Errors" from the system tester report ,but still could not solve it.

I tested less than 500 data set and also more than 500 data set , but I am getting the same " had error" status on both of the occasion, and still I am in the same boat.

Here is the report .

Normal 0 false false false EN-US X-NONE X-NONE

Name # of Results Status Date

TEST EMA HL 100 91 Had errors. 18-Jan-13 10:33:52 AM

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ID Security Symbol Periodicity Date Range Net Profit % Gain TradesTrade Profit/LossAvg. Profit/Avg. Loss Status

36 ADC 23411 Weekly 27-06-03 - 17-01-13 $10370.00 103.70 % 26 19/7 1.38 Completed.

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Summary

TEST 5 EMA HL

ADC (23411)

Simulation Date 18-Jan-13 10:33:56 AM

500 Weekly Bars 27-06-03 Through 17-01-13 (3492 Days)



Performance

Profit

$10370.00

Performance

103.70 %

Annualized Performance

10.84 %

Buy & Hold Profit

$11035.00

Buy & Hold Performance

110.35 %

Buy & Hold Annualized Performance

11.53 %

Trade Summary

Total Trades

26

Trade Efficiency

20.87 %

Average Profit/Average Loss

1.38

Profitable Trades

Total

19

Long

19

Short

0



Average Profit

$745.00

Highest Profit

$2025.00

Lowest Profit

$100.00

Most Consecutive

5

Unprofitable Trades

Total

7

Long

7

Short

0



Average Loss

$-540.71

Highest Loss

$-1400.00

Lowest Loss

$0.00

Most Consecutive

3

Maximum Position Excursions

Long Favorable

$4195.00

Short Favorable

$0.00

Long Adverse

$-1950.00

Short Adverse

$0.00

Trade Efficiency

Average Entry

67.18 %

Average Exit

53.69 %

Average Total

20.87 %



Average Long Entry

67.18 %

Average Long Exit

53.69 %

Average Long Total

20.87 %



Average Short Entry

0.00 %

Average Short Exit

0.00 %

Average Short Total

0.00 %

Performance Indices

Buy & Hold Index

-6.03 %

Profit/Loss Index

73.26 %

Reward/Risk Index

99.19 %

Accounting

Initial Equity

$10000.00

Trade Profit

$14155.00

Trade Loss

$-3785.00
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#15 Posted : Thursday, January 17, 2013 11:51:46 PM(UTC)
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Here is the system details from the system tester.


System Details TEST 5 EMA HL Optimized No Order Bias Long Portfolio Bias Single Position Limit 1

Notes

Buy Order Order Type Market Order Expiration Good Until Cancelled Entry Size Method Use Default Size

Signal Formula C>O and O<mov(L,5,E) and C>mov(L,5,E) and H<mov(H,5,E)
Price Formula

Entry Size Formula


Strategic Delay Tick Minute Day # of Bars 0 0 0 Sell Short Order Order Type Market Order Expiration Good Until Cancelled Entry Size Method Use Default Size

Signal Formula

Price Formula

Entry Size Formula


Strategic Delay Tick Minute Day # of Bars 0 0 0
Sell Order Order Type Market Order Expiration Good Until Cancelled

Signal Formula C>O
Price Formula

Strategic Delay Tick Minute Day # of Bars 0 0 0 Buy to Cover Order Order Type Market Order Expiration Good Until Cancelled

Signal Formula

Price Formula

Strategic Delay Tick Minute Day # of Bars 0 0 0

Stops BreakEven Stop Positions None Floor Level 0.00 % Stop Loss Positions None Stop Value 0.00 % Trailing Stop Positions None Profit Risk Value 0.00 % Trailing Periods 0.0 Inactivity Stop Positions None Minimum Value 0.00 % Periods 0.0 Profit Target Positions None Target Value 0.00 %


Simulation Options General Options Points Only Test No Initial Equity 10000. Default Size 100 Units Trade Long Yes Trade Short No Optimization Results 5

Trade Execution Options Realistic Market Prices Yes Buy Price N/A Sell Price N/A Sell Short Price N/A Buy To Cover Price N/A Delay To Open 1

Slippage Buy 0.00 Pts Sell 0.00 Pts Sell Short 0.00 Pts Buy to Cover 0.00 Pts Broker Options Interest Rates Margin 0.00 % Money Market 0.00 %

Margin Requirement Long Initial 100.00 % Long Maintenance 0.00 %

Short Initial 150.00 % Short Maintenance 150.00 %

Commissions Entry $0.00 Per Transaction Exit $0.00 Per Transaction

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#16 Posted : Friday, January 18, 2013 1:44:54 AM(UTC)
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Keep reading through the reports for this expiration to find what is causing the error... It may be with just one security? wabbit [:D]
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#17 Posted : Friday, January 18, 2013 2:15:42 AM(UTC)
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wabbit wrote:
Keep reading through the reports for this expiration to find what is causing the error... It may be with just one security? wabbit [:D]


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Name # of Results Status Date

Simulation 161 1 Completed. 18-Jan-13 12:55:18 PM

Simulation 163 3 Completed. 18-Jan-13 12:57:40 PM

Simulation 165 5 Had errors. 18-Jan-13 12:58:44 PM

Simulation 164 6 Had errors. 18-Jan-13 12:58:17 PM

Simulation 166 8 Completed. 18-Jan-13 1:00:54 PM

Simulation 162 10 Had errors. 18-Jan-13 12:56:49 PM

TEST EMA HL 100 91 Had errors. 18-Jan-13 10:33:52 AM


I tried with bloc of 10 securities and from that I run with chosen securities .

The report is above here.

Also , I changed the time frame to daily on some of them , but shows errors.

The same set of data, if I run with 1 data result is OK , also the same for the 3 and 8 securities. But it shows a strange error even with 5, 6 , 10 data sets .

Still I am trying to find out , what causes them.
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#18 Posted : Friday, January 18, 2013 2:44:33 AM(UTC)
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... and when you read all the reports and logs for simulations 165, 164 and 162 etc... what do they show?

I'm going to guess you've got some data which doesn't have 5 weekly bars to form the MAs required by your code??



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#19 Posted : Friday, January 18, 2013 4:46:24 AM(UTC)
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I verified the data and all they have more than 5 years +++

Report 164 and 165 are the same security , but I select with diff sample set for scanning.

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Report # 162

Summary

TEST 5 EMA HL


Simulation Date 18-Jan-13 12:56:50 PM

500 Weekly Bars 27-06-03 Through 17-01-13 (3492 Days)



Performance

Profit

$1260.00

Performance

12.60 %

Annualized Performance

1.32 %

Buy & Hold Profit

$7510.00

Buy & Hold Performance

75.10 %

Buy & Hold Annualized Performance

7.85 %

Trade Summary

Total Trades

4

Trade Efficiency

24.00 %

Average Profit/Average Loss

N/A

Profitable Trades

Total

4

Long

4

Short

0



Average Profit

$315.00

Highest Profit

$540.00

Lowest Profit

$65.00

Most Consecutive

4

Unprofitable Trades

Total

0

Long

0

Short

0



Average Loss

$0.00

Highest Loss

$0.00

Lowest Loss

$0.00

Most Consecutive

0

Maximum Position Excursions

Long Favorable

$1295.00

Short Favorable

$0.00

Long Adverse

$-690.00

Short Adverse

$0.00

Trade Efficiency

Average Entry

60.48 %

Average Exit

63.52 %

Average Total

24.00 %



Average Long Entry

60.48 %

Average Long Exit

63.52 %

Average Long Total

24.00 %



Average Short Entry

0.00 %

Average Short Exit

0.00 %

Average Short Total

0.00 %

Performance Indices

Buy & Hold Index

-83.22 %

Profit/Loss Index

100.00 %

Reward/Risk Index

100.00 %

Accounting

Initial Equity

$10000.00

Trade Profit

$1260.00

Trade Loss

$0.00

Commissions

$0.00

Interest Credited
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#20 Posted : Friday, January 18, 2013 5:11:49 AM(UTC)
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In the EST, after you have run your simulation, you see the EST - System View page, which details :

Name # of Results Status Date
Simulation 161 1 Completed. 18-Jan-13 12:55:18 PM
Simulation 163 3 Completed. 18-Jan-13 12:57:40 PM
Simulation 165 5 Had errors. 18-Jan-13 12:58:44 PM
Simulation 164 6 Had errors. 18-Jan-13 12:58:17 PM
Simulation 166 8 Completed. 18-Jan-13 1:00:54 PM
Simulation 162 10 Had errors. 18-Jan-13 12:56:49 PM
TEST EMA HL 100 91 Had errors. 18-Jan-13 10:33:52 AM
etc

Double click on one of the simulation reports to open the EST - Test View : Simulation [censored] page, which will have a summary of the equities tested and their respective outcomes, especially the status column which will specify "Completed" if the simulation ran without error, or "Had Errors" if an error was encountered for that equity.

Double click the security to view the simulation summary for a security whose simulation status is "Had Errors" In Simulation 165, one or more of the 5 instruments in that simulation had errors, one or more of the 6 instruments in Simulation 164 had errors... so what caused those errors? Read the logs and find out.

I know MS has its fair share of problems, but in general when an error message is produced there is usually a way to discover what caused that error message, but it's very hard for me to do this for you... from here.



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