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Pharon  
#1 Posted : Saturday, February 25, 2006 7:10:45 PM(UTC)
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I knew that MACD HISTOGRAM IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN MACD ITSELF BECAUSE IT ANTICIPATE THE BUY / SELL SIGNALS; PLS CAN ANY ONE ATTACH AN CHART FOR A SECURITY SHOWING HOW DOES THE HISTOGRAM SHOW THESE SIGNALS EALIER THAN MACD, IT IS BETTER FOR BOTH SIGNALS THE M.A.CROSSOVERS AND DIVERGENCE THANKS
Patrick  
#2 Posted : Saturday, February 25, 2006 8:25:07 PM(UTC)
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The MACD HISTOGRAM is the exact same thing as the MACD except that it is plotted differently. The histogram is not quicker or any different, it is just another way of displaying it. For example if I write 4 or IV . It means the same thing but it looks different ... Patrick :mrgreen:
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#3 Posted : Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:41:21 AM(UTC)
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Pharon, don't listen to that Patrick guy - he is currently suffering from jet-lag and culture shock. :stretch: The MACD Histogram is normally considered the difference between the MACD and its EMA signal line. For example: [code:1:f07ddd80b9] { MACD & Histogram } { http://www.metastocktools.com } { User inputs } shortPds:=Input("shorter MACD periods", 1,260,12); longPds:=Input("longer MACD periods", 2,2600,26); triggerPds:=Input("MACD signal periods", 1,260,9); plot:=Input("plot: [1]MACD, [2]Histogram", 1,2,1); { MACD } Mac:=Mov(C,shortPds,E)-Mov(C,longPds,E); { Signal } Signal:=Mov(Mac,triggerPds,E); { Histogram } Hist:=Mac-Signal; { Plot in own window } 0;If(plot=1,Signal,Hist); If(plot=1,Mac,Hist) [/code:1:f07ddd80b9] The MACD measures price momentum, whereas the MACDH measures the acceleration/deceleration of price momentum. Furthermore, the MACDHH (difference between the MACDH and its own EMA signal line) measures acceleration/deceleration of acceleration/deceleration of price momentum. And as for the MACDHHH... :) jose '-)
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#4 Posted : Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:55:36 AM(UTC)
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Jose wrote:
And as for the MACDHHH... :)
And as for the MACDHHH.??? continue please jose
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#5 Posted : Sunday, February 26, 2006 5:44:50 AM(UTC)
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MACD - price momentum (rate of price change). MACDH - acceleration or change of price momentum (rate of change of rate of change of price, or velocity). MACDHH - acceleration of acceleration of price momentum (rate of change of rate of change of rate of change of price). MACDHHH would be the difference between the MACDHH and its own EMA signal line. It measures acceleration of the acceleration of the acceleration of the momentum of price (rate of change of rate of change of rate of change of rate of change of price). I'm almost sure that this is so far removed from real-world trading, that it is practically useless - but who knows... The further we develop the MACDHHH oscillator, the more sensitive it becomes to price changes. Please don't ask about the MACDHHHH... :) [code:1:7041d93c5c] { Crazy MACDHHH } { http://www.metastocktools.com } { User inputs } shortPds:=Input("shorter MACD periods", 1,260,12); longPds:=Input("longer MACD periods", 2,2600,26); triggerPds:=Input("Signal periods", 1,260,9); { MACD } Mac:=Mov(C,shortPds,E)-Mov(C,longPds,E); { MACD Signal } Signal:=Mov(Mac,triggerPds,E); { MACDH } MACDH:=Mac-Signal; { MACDH Signal } Signal:=Mov(MACDH,triggerPds,E); { MACDHH } MACDHH:=MACDH-Signal; { MACDHH Signal } Signal:=Mov(MACDHH,triggerPds,E); { MACDHHH } MACDHHH:=MACDHH-Signal; { MACDHHHH and so on... } { Plot in own window } MACDHHH; [/code:1:7041d93c5c] jose '-)
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#6 Posted : Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:59:47 AM(UTC)
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Culture shock :eek: Well I still stand on my first post, when the MACDH crosses above zero the MACD crosses above its signal ligne and vice versa ... I still don't see a difference between the 2 ... Anyways I must be misunderstanding something .... Patrick :mrgreen:
Pharon  
#7 Posted : Sunday, February 26, 2006 1:33:30 PM(UTC)
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There is no misundersand Patrick, what is written in the books is; The main benifit of the MACD-HISTOGRAM is its ability to anticipate MACD signals. Divergence usually appear in the MACD-HISTOGRAM befor MACD moving average crossovers. Now what I need from our experts is a chart that explain this. is it clear now Idonot mean MACDHHHHHHHHH..............
sportrider  
#8 Posted : Sunday, February 26, 2006 3:59:26 PM(UTC)
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Hi Pharon, I think what is meant by that is that you would see a reverse in the histogram from the bar before more than you would on the lines themselves.Open up a chart and plot the macd find yourself a peak ,the next bar to your right you should see that it doesnt go any higher but starts to drop-(the high of the histogram yesterday is higher than the high of the histogram bar today),some trader use this change itself as part of a trade signal.Hope this helps.
Pharon  
#9 Posted : Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:53:13 PM(UTC)
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THANKS SPORTRIDER, actually yes; the foreshadow of the peaks / troughs is signals for decreasing the MACD itself to be under its signal line. but what about the peak / trough decline to centerline but donot cross it and formed aonother peak / trough which is lower / higher than the first i.e negative / postive divergence of course the first signal made me sell / buy it means wrong signal!!!!
sportrider  
#10 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2006 4:18:32 AM(UTC)
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PHARON, I'm sorry but I don't think I fully understand your question.I think Jose is much better equip to answer your question its a little too technical for me.....also I know Jose has done some extensive work on this.
hayseed  
#11 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:58:54 PM(UTC)
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hey pharon..... noticed your orignal post but what you were asking for was beyond me, that being, attach a chart for a security showing how does the histogram show these signals earlier than the macd .... many times divergences are nothing more than the math behind lagging indicators catching up with todays price........ whether or not they mean anything might have more to do with the strength and length of the trend ..... you can plot the macd in both standard line and histogram style in the same window to see what if any differences there might be.... by ploting the difference between the macd and signal line in histo style you can more easily see the waning and waxing effect ......h
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