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A Cup of Tea
Nan-in, a Japanese master during the Meiji era (1868-1912), received a university professor who came to inquire about Zen.
Nan-in served tea. He poured his visitor's cup full, and then kept on pouring.
The professor watched the overflow until he no longer could restrain himself. "It is overfull. No more will go in!"
"Like this cup," Nan-in said, "you are full of your own opinions and speculations. How can I show you Zen unless you first empty your cup?"
This is from Zen school. Hope it helps. :oops:
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turtle wrote:A Cup of Tea
Nan-in, a Japanese master...
Let me guess... You view yourself as the Zen master, and we would have to be the fools with heads too full of opinions to take in you advice (or market speculation in this case).
Here is one for you, Turtle:
Zen Flesh, Zen Bones: A Collection of Zen and Pre-Zen Writings"), must have decency to also quote source.[/quote wrote:
jose '-)
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A Cup of Tea ©
Nan-in ©, a Japanese master during the Meiji era (1868-1912), received a university professor who came to inquire about Zen ©
Nan-in © served tea. He poured his visitor's cup full, and then kept on pouring.
The professor watched the overflow until he no longer could restrain himself. "It is overfull. No more will go in!"
"Like this cup," Nan-in © said, "you are full of your own opinions and speculations. How can I show you Zen © unless you first empty your cup?"
All right reserved by Nan-in © (1868-1912)
It is 2005 now I supposed the copyright owned by Nan-in © has expired?
How to approach the teachings, the so-called four reliances:
- Rely on the message, not on the personality of the teacher.
- Rely on the meaning, not just the words.
- Rely on the real meaning, not just the provisional meaning.
- Rely on your wisdom and insight, not just on your ordinary, judgmental mind. Nan-in ©:wink:
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turtle wrote:All right reserved by Nan-in © (1868-1912)
It is 2005 now I supposed the copyright owned by Nan-in © has expired?
Mr Turtle, your sarcasm fails to address the fact that you've copied & posted copyright material, word for word, without crediting the source:
Page 19, "Zen Flesh, Zen Bones: A Collection of Zen and Pre-Zen Writings"
turtle wrote:- Rely on the message, not on the personality of the teacher.
You're missing the point, Mr Turtle:
You're no more a teacher of wisdom than any other anonymous plagiarist.
jose '-)
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Turtle and Jose ... Please do not continue with this ... Let's get back to the topic ...
Patrick :mrgreen:
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Anytime you point the finger of blame someone, remember that there are 4 fingers pointing back at you. :P
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Patrick wrote:Let's get back to the topic ...
This thread's topic, before it got derailed by Zen Turtle & his irrelevant esoteric discourse:
Quote:...and would love to hear if your trading results are close to the theorized results.
As mentioned before, my own actual trading results have been better than backtest-derived expectations. This may have been due to luck (the system caught some good trending periods), or due to overcautious expectations in backtesting (applied 1.5% total slippage per trade).
All documented Pegasus' trading results (including some very major losses), here:
http://www.metastocktools.com/Pegasus/Pegasys.htm
jose '-)
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The more someone is creative, the more chance they have of sabotaging their performance. Successful trading requires a kind of intelligence that can realize and enforce its own limitations. Successful system traders apply every ounce of intelligence they have into the creation of their systems, but they're dumbbells about following them. You've got to have schizoid approach. Work like hell to make it good, and then ignore it. President Bush would be a great trader of he had a system.
By Richard Dennis ©
Stock market is a place where hard work do not pay. Mr. CK, I hope this can help improve your trading career? :idea:
Hope you still have the Windows © (Bill Gates & Mircrosoft Corp. All rights reserved 2005) of Opportunity to imporve and fine tuning your trading system.
Those system that works that makes money is not that hard to follow and stick with. If a system that is hard to stick with or follow by all mean it is not a workable system but simply an adult toy. :D
by ZEN Ninja Turtle © All Rigths Reserved.
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yeah.... well first my answer to ck's very good orignal questzen.... no..... the questzen conditzens forced that reply.....
now for unsolicted thoughts.... most, if not all, of the metastock supplied trading systems have beat the s&p over the past 5 years.... while at first glance that might sound like something to crow about, deeper thought might reveal a risk in backtesting over long periods of time....
my active trading is in the dia, spy and oex pits, the gains/losses/volatility there are painfully obvious..... the dia and spy pits are professional traders..... the oex is comprised by the worlds most compulsive addicted gamblers, hence the origin of vix........ see ya in the red room.....h
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