Patrick and the gang, After much deliberation, the Dynamic Market Lab has decided to offer our [color=red:00fba3f20f]entire set of 33 adaptive indicators for free[/color]. I have posted the dll here now, and it is not a timed trial, it is a full version. As I said before, I think what you guys are doing here is great, and we think that we have a great product with the ADSI indicators (based on John Ehlers Signal Processing Theory), and we have just announced here http://www.thedml.com/pages/orderveloping goes, we really believe that there are some interesting uses for these adaptive functions yet to be discovered...and we have a few examples of their use on our site, http://www.thedml.com/pages/knowbase/formulas.html

Brad.... I like what you are doing... however, we will need to think of another way to go about this... There has been one premise all along on this forum... we would offer as much as we can for free, freely give our time and assistance, and never market into this database. Now - Patrick does let me get away with things here and there... but have you ever seen us let anyone get away with collecting names or marketing stuff? Nope. I am sure that you didn't mean to put your stuff across that way. No one does. My problem with your post(s) is that you can obviously upload .[censored] files - they are prolific on the forum (yup - .dxx is an issue) so in order to get your free thing people have to register to your site - where they may or may not get marketed to. That is fine - if that is what you are trying to do. Please don't make it appear that you attempted to upload something for free and then redirect to your site... Now - don't get offended - that is not the purpose here either... (ask anyone else who has been edited) I would just appreciate a little clarity in the situation. I don't think it is too much to ask for someone to give up their contact details in exchange for all your hard work. But please just ask for it... That is why I am a cupcake instead of a slick marketing person... full disclosure... :) M

Good work, Brad - much appreciated. And many thanks again to the forum's Patrick for pushing the envelope with the Forum.dll. :) As for walking the thin line between altruistic posting and self-promotion, it's not that easy, as I have discovered with countless of my own posts being edited in the past. Nevertheless, I take my hat off to the forum crew for all their hard (unpaid) work to maintain and moderate what is now a great MetaStock meeting place. jose '-) http://metastocktools.com/#metastock

Thanks Brad! Much appreciated... and thanks for understanding the editing... :wink: M

ExtFml( "ASI.DEMA", C, 20) is the same as the standard DEMA from Equis

Henry, The indicators should give the same results as the equis ones when you give a constant period input (20 bars). To make the indicators "adaptive" you must use another array. I personally use a version of Ehlers' Cybernetic Cycle Period as input. With some indicators, it is ideal to use one measured cycle length as the input, and in other cases it is ideal to use 1/2 of the measured cycle length. Hope this helps, Brad

Henry, you keep missing the point of the variable-input adaptive indicators. Try this basic example, using standard MFL: [code:1:53e3a7828a]pds:=Input("EMA periods",1,2600,20); pds:=If(pds>Cum(IsDefined(C)),Cum(IsDefined(C)),pds); Mov(C,pds,E) [/code:1:53e3a7828a] Now try it this way: [code:1:53e3a7828a]pds:=Input("EMA periods",1,2600,20); pds:=If(pds>Cum(IsDefined(C)),Cum(IsDefined(C)),pds); ExtFml("ASI.EMA",C,pds) [/code:1:53e3a7828a] jose '-) http://metastocktools.com/#metastock .

CInSoCal, Well, I have to say, you seem to be slightly confused about what we have here. First, we are on very good terms with John Ehlers and Metastock. Ehlers approves of our work, and supporst our efforts. We currently have a relationship with Metastock, and we are working on making some of our products offical Metastock Add-Ons, but we have an understanding that we can market and sell them in the mean time. As far as testing, we have PAINSTAKINGLY tested, bar-by-bar, EVERY SINGLE INDICATOR. I challenge anyone out there to find an error in them. With the ADSI indicators, we have some internal means of testing the indicators and comparing them to Ehlers' work...and I can tell you with confidence that they match EXACTLY what is programmed in EasyLanguage in John's books. In fact, while programming our indicators, we noticed an error in John's calculations in his book, and have pointed that error out to him. Mike (the other member of the DML) personally edited John's last book, and I guess that one slipped by him. As for Ehlers personally confirming that our work is really his work, well, I just don't think that he would or could confirm this to the level that we already have. Long story short, the indicators are correct. period. We offer a free trial download of them if anyone wants to do more testing... Also, since we last spoke, we have done lots of backtesting, and have been working closely with some very serious traders that are already using our indicators and our soon-to-be-offered systems to make money... You offered to give us the names of some folks to help us do some backtesting, but you never got back to us....we are still open to that suggestion, but we feel that we have accomplished that on our own. You might have assumed that since you did not put us in touch with these people, that the work was not done, which was a false assumption. Backtesting a simple one or two indicator system is really very easy. We did this, and were pleased with the results. We think you will be too. That is the indicators. As for the sytems that come with ADSI, we have proof that they give good trading results. We are currently using the TradeSim platform and other mathmatical analysis to generate these results, as we don't believe the Metastock System Tester does a thorough enough job of showing expected results... We initially had reservations about offering a system, because this type of product often attracts those people out there that just can't think for themselves. This is not the type of trader that we are looking to attract. We still recommend that you adapt our expert advisors, explorations, and systems to fit your trading style, market(s) and time frame. We will be more than happy to help you do this through our forum. There will also be instructions and documentation that comes with the ADSI purchase that will help you to use our tools wisely. I would recommend that anyone wanting more information or detail on system development visit our forum and ask questions. <Brad's edit, system post has been removed> We have always encouraged open discussion of our tools and their use. All that being said, you SHOULD (no guarentees) be able to take the tools that come with ADSI and make money right out of the box. I understand your concern, and if you don't recommend our products, that's OK too. Sorry to hear such negative feedback. I hope we can get this sorted out for the sake of the Metastock users. My intention was not to deceive anyone. Thanks, Brad Ulrich The Dynamic Market Lab, LLC www.thedml.com

Dito on Wabbit's request to post the source code for the ASI. Thx, Charley

Dear Brad, I first have to thank you for offering the indicators, albiet without specific explanations on the use of the external functions. I figure that with enough trial and error I will Adapt them into a profitable trading system. I have seen this response with PowerPivots Plus add-on, the experts are password protected and there was little explanation on how to use the external functions. Now that the formalities are over, lets get down to business! Your offer claims 33 Adaptive Indicators, I don't doubt you. Armed with the knowledge on how to use these ext functions,I'm sure that they are Adaptive. It's my bad luck that I don't have any knowledge about these external functions, so I started to compare them to the indicators that came with Metastock to see the differences. Dear Jose, Yes I Missed the Point I should just use the Var function that is includded in the Moving averages