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investorretired  
#1 Posted : Thursday, October 20, 2005 2:19:04 PM(UTC)
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Since the NDX closed at the high of day yesterday and it was a Reversal Day (A Reversal Day and not a Key Reversal). This reminded me of a study I did a few years ago. I wanted to know if there was a statistical way to predict the future price direction based upon where the daily bar closed in relationship to the entire bar. If the closed is in the top 10% of the bar what was the odds that it would take out the high of that bar before it took out the low of that bar in the next few bars. I did the study on the NDX and SPX. On the NDX if the bar closed in the top 10% of the bar there was a about an 81% of this happening and on the SPX there was about a 78% chance. The percentages were about the same on the downside. Just a note, if an OVB (Outside vertical bar – High to Low engulfs the previous bar) follows a bar it was considered a failure. This happens about 9% to 10% of the time on these indexes. The study was only done on these 2 indexes and for daily data only.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:35:59 PM(UTC)
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Cool! I Like these kinds of studies. I wish I knew more about statistics because I'd like to determine the degree of correlation between a gold stock(s) to both the price of oil and spot gold.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, October 25, 2005 3:10:29 PM(UTC)
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Funny how many times the same questions get asked. This might help... http://lightning.he.net/cgi-bin/suid/~reefcap/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=000268
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, October 25, 2005 5:57:48 PM(UTC)
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hey ir.... did you by any chance adjust the 10% figure to see if any chance of improving those odds or was that the optimum %.... the close relative to the bar is somewhat like stochastic line of thinking.... hey wabbit..... There are only 10 types of people in the world.... Those which count in binary and those which don't. and all this time i was thinking there were 11 types of people.... those that could count in binary but not hexidecimal and those that couldn't.....h
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:58:55 PM(UTC)
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Hayseed I have checked for bar values that close closer to the end of the bar (Less than 10%) and it does not significantly increase the hit rate. What it does do is significantly decrease the number of occurrences. This study covers the last 16+ years of data. One more comment about OVB. This information can be helpful for those people that place stops based upon the height of a bar. Since an OVB occurs about 9 to 10% of the time (These indexes) that is the odds of getting whipped sawed. Again the study does not know if the high or low is taken out first.
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:40:57 PM(UTC)
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hayseed wrote:
hey wabbit..... There are only 10 types of people in the world.... Those which count in binary and those which don't. and all this time i was thinking there were 11 types of people.... those that could count in binary but not hexidecimal and those that couldn't.....h
ROFLMAO =D> wabbit :D
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:11:08 PM(UTC)
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Wabbit That was great introduction to statistics. I'll futz around w/ Newmont Mining vs. Crude and Spot Gold and see what I come up with. Thanks, J PS -- Glad to see Reef Capital is back up and running. They were down and I lost track of them.
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