ooppps..... an oversight here that you might have caught.... mentioned about the shortest path to copyright infringement the other day.... you can copy a systems entire symbol list at one time, that would include all formulas and symbols...... as long as their not password protected..... creating a blank expert, name it '1' so it will stay on top, and place as many symbols/highlights as you can find.... even ones like power pivots or john murphys cpr.... the next time your creating a new expert, just make a copy of '1', you will start off with dozens of symbols and highlights preloaded.... just check the ones you want to use...... sure saves time..... so why the oooppps.... just now figured out why many of the graphics were always missing.... my chart background and the text font color were the same..... both black.... only a hayseed would do something like that.....h