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I didn't realize that about working with the files. Which licence agreement are you referring to? Is it also illegal to buy third party software that writes directly to those files?
Sorry about the date structure question. I seem to be getting on your nerves. I think I am finished with this issue of changing the symbol names although I hate to think that I did it in an illegal manner.
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ThrushCreek wrote:Sorry, the date problem had to do with the Canadian securities. They are not as straight forward as the us securities which just need the us; removed. The Canadian need a .TO appended and in some cases even the symbol is slightly different. I also notice that Reuters data link is case sensitive for the downloader but not for Metastock. This is just an fyi as it doesn't have much to do with the mdk.
Oh, well, that would make things more difficult than just writing something to change the symbol. I had only ever thought of writing a utility that would work based on a list you give it or for prepending the country code. I knew some symbols may be different, but there isn't too much I can do about that in the program.
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I'd imagine it's in both the MetaStock and MDK license agreements not to reverse engineer or other such things with the files. I haven't actually read them myself, but that's generally in every license agreement.
I'm no expert at law, nor am I familiar with our agreements, so I can't say for sure that it's illegal to use software like what was linked to in this thread. However, I'm pretty sure it is. I reported the company to our legal department and will let them decide. They (that company selling that tool) are not authorized by us, which means they're likely to be selling (illegally) our MDK under their name or they've reverse engineered the files and have written all their own code, which should also be illegal.
You're not getting on my nerves. I've spoken with my managers here, trying to see what I can do to help you with your situation. I only pointed out what you were doing is probably illegal since people didn't seem to realize it. I apologize if I came across as anything but helpful. That's really all I'm trying to be. I sent you a PM yesterday, in hopes of helping you. Please let me know if you didn't get it.
When speaking with my manager, the question came up as to why you're in need of having Reuters Datalink data changed to QuoteCenter. Are you one of those that are doing that because QuoteCenter is slow to get EOD data? If so, could you tell me about how much slower? Is there another reason? Maybe there is something we can do about you needing two services that's better than trying to help you convert the symbols.
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I have been using Quote center for several years for real time data but I am backing away from real time trading because the market is too erratic for my nerves right now. I didn't see any reason to pay the QC subscription price just for EOD so I switched to the more economical Reuters Data link since I also have an EOD version of Metastock. During my QC time I have built up a number of folders of securities that I use for creating indices and monitoring market breadth. Hence the unforseen problem of symbol differences between the data feeds. There are a small enough percentage of Canadian stocks that I can manully correct them with the downloader. My main issue was the thousands of us stocks with the 'us;' in front of them spread among many folders and I thought the MDK was the ideal approach, not realizing that the write functions were disabled.
Well the damage is done now and I just hope the 'software police' don't come after me for my workaround to the disabled write functions.
Thanks for your help. I appreciate it.
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I hope everything works out for you and don't worry about anyone coming after you.
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my removed post had nothing to do with the metastock developers kit (MDK) so don't know why you removed it. i also referenced various freely available libraries and documents across the internet which describe the de-faco metastock binary file format.
reverse engineering a data file format for the purposes of interoperability is not illegal at all. you can't even copyright or patent a data file format. microsoft tried to ban people from reverse engineering the microsoft word .doc format and were recently forced to publish the .doc binary file format specifications due to anti trust legislation.
that equis insists on this being an illegal activity is ridiculous.
if it was so illegal why have trading tools been offering the metalib sdk for so many years now and you haven't prosecuted them?
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